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Beitragvon Kelvin Wilson » 23.06.2007 17:25

Could you do me the favour, Steve, of posting the illustration I sent you last night?... I still don't know how to. Of course, if you tell me how, I'd do it myself!

Kelvin
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Beitragvon Kelvin Wilson » 23.06.2007 21:01

Hello everyone, Steve in particular,

In May of last year Steve published an anthromorphic swordhilt on this forum, showing a very peculiar hairstyle in undeniable detail... it has fascinated me ever since, especially as I was then in the furor of collecting material for a book I plan to make: "Tribal Europe", a caleidoscope of prehistoric costume.

In fact, this forum is one of my richest sources, as I am often surprised by what members share with each other... hitherto I had not known there were birchbarkhats other than that from Hochdorf, or enjoyed seeing the Glauberg harness tested in reality.
Anyway, I have now a synopsis for the book, and outside interest to hawk it about. "Time, then", I thought, "to make a few of the illustrations!".

As a thank-you, a "Herzlichen Dank!" ;-), to the members of this forum, I will sneak preview you the first. And yes, it's that swordhilthaircut.... Steve has been so kind to create a link:

http://archaeoforum.freehost.ag/Userbil ... anding.jpg

I hope you all like it and are, as I am, surprised at the high level of stylization. I myself have, laughing, compared him to David Beckham in his long-hair days, I have quietly thought of Sumo wrestlers...

Meanwhile, there is still a 'problem' with the original object: no-one knows where it comes from, or what its exact date is.
My own research has shown it to resemble a sword from Mainz dated to the 1st century BC: http://members.tripod.com/Preachan/icons/morphic.gif (the hilt on the right!)
Here is another example, also from the 1st century BC:
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ho/04/euw ... .94a-d.htm

For another 'Zopfen'-look, you should also look at http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showre ... =18&page=1 ...the images can be enlarged. To me, though, the stylization on this one is not depicted as 'true-to-life' as on our example, and therefore may just be, well, play.

There. That's it.
I hope this spurs on a new discussion that helps identify the mystery-object. Meanwhile, look out for Steve's painfull reallife reconstruction! :-)

Best wishes, and to you all: thank you,

Kelvin Wilson
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Beitragvon Kelvin Wilson » 23.06.2007 21:08

...well, I said the alternative 'Zopfen' hairstyle didn't look convincing to me because of the way that the braids don't terminate at the end.

And then I found this: http://www.longhairlovers.com/braider_sabin.html

If I am not mistaking, there are hairstyles here that match the Celtic braids exactly!


:-) Kelvin Wilson
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Beitragvon Kelvin Wilson » 24.06.2007 09:35

GOT IT!!

A British archeologist mailed me this this morning:

"The provenance is Châtillon-sur-Indre. It was from a burial along with
other items. It is now at Nantes museum.
See:
- Clarke, R. R. and Hawkes, C. F. C. 'An Iron Anthropoid Sword from
Shouldham, Norfolk, with Related Continental and British Weapons' Proc.
Prehist. Soc. 21: 198-227.
- Jope, E. M. _Early Celtic Art in the British Isles_, Oxford, 2000, p.258
Plate 133 k-m. (3 views, back, side and front)"

I am very happy... now I still need the date.

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Beitragvon Kelvin Wilson » 24.06.2007 09:48

Got it, again:

http://www.culture.cg44.fr/Musee/collec ... ombe1.html


Date? 30-20 BC. From the tribal area of the Gaulish Bituriges.
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Beitragvon Hans T. » 24.06.2007 09:55

Great, Kelvin! Thank you a lot!!


Für die nicht so des gallischen mächtigen:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... uage_tools
"Des is wia bei jeda Wissenschaft, am Schluß stellt sich dann heraus, daß alles ganz anders war."
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Beitragvon Kelvin Wilson » 24.06.2007 10:22

It gets even better... here's most likely the front of the swordhilt:
http://www.culture.cg44.fr/Musee/collec ... s_fer.html

I overlaid the two photos, and they are a perfect match. It does mean I will change a few things in my illustrations... make the hair less flat on the front!

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Beitragvon Kelvin Wilson » 24.06.2007 10:44

This description of the swordhilt http://www.culture.cg44.fr/Musee/collec ... ombe5.html suggests that the hair is not tied in the neck with a knot, but with a broche...

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